What Animals Symbolize in the Internal Worlds
Student: Master, an explanation of how we can comprehend the ego of adultery?
Samael Aun Weor: Well, only through deep reflection and in-depth meditation, otherwise that would not be possible. In any case, it is necessary to look for the differential mean, so that there is a mathematical comprehension of any psychological defect.
If we add, for example, 20 plus 20, gives us 40, right? 20 is a quantity; 40 is the outcome of the sum of 20 plus 20, it would be another amount, right? There is a differential mean between these two quantities, which would undoubtedly be 20. Because if we divide 40 by 2, it gives us 20, which is the differential mean.
Well, 20 and 20 are 40 and the differential mean is 20. What do I mean by this? Simply, that there must be full union of Being with knowledge...
And when I say " knowledge" it is about knowing such a psychological defect.
Let's put the one of adultery; well, we could not know if we did not enter into deep meditation. It is obvious that if we manage to become cognizant of the defect, in itself, then, being and knowing will have been united...
Well, and from the outcome of the union of being with knowledge, the differential mean results, that is, the exact mathematical quantity; the subject has achieved comprehension.
But comprehension is not everything, there is a need for elimination. It could not be removed without superior help. Because the mind, by itself, can label any defect with different names, pass it from one department of understanding to another, hide it from itself and from others, justify it, etc., but could never fully comprehend it...
For integral comprehension, the help of the Being is needed; the same is true for elimination: the mind, by itself, could not eliminate; to eliminate, the help of Devi kundalini shakti (the igneous serpent of our magical powers) is definitely needed.
Student: Do we have to use this same process with hatred, envy, laziness?...
Samael Aun Weor: Likewise, with any! Thus, only through profound inner meditation can we reach mathematical comprehension...
Student: ...Master, the bird with the green feathers. Is it actually representing the holy spirit, or what is it representing?
Samael Aun Weor: You mean the parrot?
Student: The parrot or the papagayo, as the Aztecs called it here...
Samael Aun Weor: The Aztec papagayo always represented chastity, that's obvious; and if it represented chastity it represented sex; and if it represented sex, it represented the third Logos, that's obvious...
Student: Master, and the Ibis bird of the Egyptians?
Samael Aun Weor: Well, it also represents the third Logos.
Student: And the crow?
Samael Aun Weor: The raven? Well, in alchemy it represents the black or putrid waters, death, etc.
Student: And the condor, venerable master?
Samael Aun Weor: The condor, or the haughty eagle, is the symbol, precisely, of the second Logos...
Student: The Christ?
Samael Aun Weor: Symbol of Christus, or Vishnu of the Hindustani...
Student: Is the Kalahamsa swan the same third Logos?
Samael Aun Weor: Flying over the waters of life, the Kalahaṃsa (कलहंस), the swan always represents the third logos...
“It never changes, it is a poem of melancholy, its white feathers enchant us and it is a placid miracle when the day dies. I have seen the swan silent within... ...spying on the secrets near the lagoon, as if in a dream... ...the swan dialoguing with the moon!"
It is also the living symbol of the third Logos...
Student: And the barn owl, venerable master?
Samael Aun Weor: Indicates death.
Student: And the owl?
Samael Aun Weor: The owl also indicates death. The angels of death always carry on their scythes the symbol of the barn owl, the owl... Aztecs call the owl tecolote, and the barn owl, "owl"...
Student: Master, the flamingo, that pretty pink bird?
Samael Aun Weor: A kind of a large crane?
Students: Yes...
Samael Aun Weor: Well, the living symbol of the third Logos. It is like the heron, the third Logos.
Student: And the turkey or gallopavo?
Samael Aun Weor: Symbol of vanity and pride.
Student: And the one they call “golero” in Colombia? What do they call it here: “gallinazo”, “chulo”?...
Samael Aun Weor: Ah!, the buzzard! You mean the buzzards, well, undoubtedly they represent death.
Student: And the elephant what it represents, master?
Samael Aun Weor: The elephant has always been a symbol of the Logos... ...but the white elephant, because the other elephants don't have much significance.
Student: And the horse, venerable master?
Samael Aun Weor: The horse? The horse has various representations: it could represent animal passions; and we would then remember the stables of Augias, which were cleaned by Hercules, with the sacred fire. Or it could represent, like Pegasus, the human being who has triumphed over the beast...
Student: The ass?
Samael Aun Weor: The ass, the donkey, clearly represents the mercury of the secret philosophy, the raw mercury, before the real mercury has been prepared. The brute Azoth, that is, the sperm before the mercury has been prepared... there is no more happiness than to be eliminated by that lightning...
Student: A powerful energy is circulating at those times?
Samael Aun Weor: Of course! Such a death, being struck by a lightning is obviously... ...so grandiose. By lightning! That lightning concentrates on one who is worth nothing...
Student: Instantaneously?
Samael Aun Weor: Instantaneous!
Student: It is a gift from God!
Samael Aun Weor: From lightning!...
Student: Master, are the two-headed eagle, the two-headed snake and all the two-headed animals representing sulfur and mercury?
Samael Aun Weor: Sulfur...!
Student: In the codices, the lizard, what does the lizard represent? The lizard crawls, walks, observes...
Samael Aun Weor: It represents the element earth... Healers underestimate the poor, they despise them... ...and then they fall miserably...
Student: Yes, I knew someone that in the beginning he did wonders, healing lots of people; he was looking for people just like that, poor people who really didn't have money for cures. But later, when the rich people found out he was good...
Samael Aun Weor: ...he became haughty, he became arrogant!
Student: The wealthy started looking for him, they took him away by car and he didn't look anymore, he didn't answer anymore, he didn't have time anymore. He already despised people without money for serving people with money, but one day when he put his hand, his powers went away: then when he realized what had happened, he let himself die...
Samael Aun Weor: As long as the ego of conceit is not disintegrated, well, very serious mistakes are made. One is exposed to failure. So that those egos of pride, of conceit, of vanity, of arrogance, these are what make the greatest initiates to fall...
Always share, or always coexist with each other, everyone. I do not want to say that we are also going to despise the wealthy, it would be as absurd as despising the poor. We must treat the rich and the poor in the same way: everyone equally, without any preference.
A lot of attention is needed, because when one of those initiates is at the peak of success: a lot of fortune and all that stuff, well he can, frankly, forget about the poor, he can underestimate them; he can fall into conceit, arrogance, pride, and then he fails...
Student: Did he go that far?
Samael Aun Weor: That's as far as he went. That is a very serious error of the initiates. That's where many fall: their pride goes up and finally they go down...
Student: As Marta's father says: “whoever doesn't want to rise like a palm tree, he falls like a coconut”... [laughs].
Samael Aun Weor: That's true!... ...slowly and straight...
Student: Master, I have been observing in the different ruins where I have been and right there in the codices, and there is the butterfly, the butterfly that goes through the process of metamorphosis, is that the same process that an initiate goes through until reaches the degree of perfection?
Samael Aun Weor: That is clear. From the catepillar comes the butterfly, from the chrysalis; likewise, from him, who is the “intellectual animal”, has to come out the true human, the authentic human; that human must be created within ourselves, until one day, one resurfaces in the light of the sun...
Student: So, Quetzalcoatl was a butterfly-human, are all gods butterfly-humans?
Samael Aun Weor: Well, it is a symbol. As a symbol it represents the soul, the intelligence of the true human.
Student: In Colombia, the Tayrona Natives, and many tribes, made butterflies in pure gold and with little circles, divine, master, beautiful! They buried them. But I've even had golden butterflies in my hand, but I never got to know the interpretation, until now...
Samael Aun Weor: It represents the psyche, the soul.
Student: There are some in the shape of a nose ring... and the “bembeta” that the Chac Mool has? That it is like a thick nose ring that the Indians put on here, was that used to transmute or what was it used for?
Samael Aun Weor: They are symbols, nothing more than symbols; symbols of the true human, right? The butterfly, the winged human. Just as within the "intellectual animal", as a "chrysalis" the human is formed. Also, that can be represented with the butterfly: inside the chrysalis the butterfly comes out and flies...
Student: Another symbol that exists here among the Nahuas is the rabbit, master...
Samael Aun Weor: ... his long ears. what could the long ears represent?
Student: The secret ear?
Samael Aun Weor: The secret ear (clairaudience) of the verb, the word... ...rabbit hides, makes its caves. What can the cave represent? Which is the cave? You have to look for it within yourself: the cave that we carry inside ourselves. Thus, the rabbit represents the verb that must be sought within oneself, the word...
Student: And the deer, venerable master?
Samael Aun Weor: The deer even has a dance out there: “the deer dance”. The deer dance is pathetic, some dance it wonderfully, others do it less gracefully, but those who do it best present magnificent shows. The deer dance... ...the deer hunt...
Student: Is it like that process that happens in the initiation, the one which relates to the capture of the ceryneian hind that represents the ascent of Valkyrie?
Samael Aun Weor: That is clear.
Student: And in this case, the deer would be the human soul?
Samael Aun Weor: The soul that suffers, cries, moans, and fights, and finally manages to die to have reality, to be. the deer!
Student: The camel, master?
Samael Aun Weor: The camel, the dromedary, that travels through the desert... We, like camels, must navigate through the desert of life...
Student: Is the black panther representing lucifer?
Samael Aun Weor: The black panther is therefore terrible, demonic, diabolical, representing the devil in us...
Student: I once had an experience, master, in which I was surrounded by pure black panthers and they were looking for me and if they caught me I was going to have a terrible time...
Samael Aun Weor: black panthers!... Well, enemies...
Students: ...
Samael Aun Weor: ...in the process of disincarnation!
Students: ...
Samael Aun Weor: ... a monetary matter ..., a debt ... money that his sister presumed to have. She assumed that someone (whose name I do not mention) had claimed it improperly (mere assumptions that have no fundamental value). In any case, the matter reached the ears of the lawyer, and of course, he was so upset that this caused him, that he suffered facial paralysis with loss of language, all because of great anger, the result of which is to be seen at naked eye...
Student: Can anger lead one to death?
Samael Aun Weor: It's clear: a great anger can lead one to... ...to pantheon matters. how well, everything that is born has to die... then?
Student: Master, we were in Teotenango (that giant city); I understand, then, that the Nahuatl translation is something like "divine wall." "teotl" is god; and "tenango" is wall (I don't know something they explained to me over there about it). So, when we were there, all that seemed so normal to me, as if I knew him; So much so that I went to look for the main temple (up there in Teotenango).
I went directly there: “there has to be a special temple”, and I went there, to a place where the highest is, from where all their construction can be seen. There we did a practice, the brother "the Dutchman" felt very emotional and we had a nice experience, right? And I felt that I had lived there, in that place. Marta looked like a maiden who was walking next to me.
Samael Aun Weor: Matters of the past and all of that...
Student: Master... And now that I'm established, I'm going to dedicate myself to studying a lot. I'm doing my best to do things the best, correctly...
Samael Aun Weor: Of course! With anthropology we enter Europe, we will arrive everywhere. Besides, it will be up to me to discover buried cities, niches, tombs, everything. And put that on the table. But not only the physical thing but also the doctrine, and teaching the doctrine contained in each one of those cities and everything...
Student: Master, when that happens, remember this disciple, because I like all of that.
Samael Aun Weor: Of course!
Student: For life, master!...
Samael Aun Weor: We will continue to the old world, let's see what we do? There's a lot to do, right?
Student: Quite a lot!
Samael Aun Weor: Well, here we go! I'm waiting for nothing more than time to pass, for the time to come...
Student: "zero hour"?
Samael Aun Weor: The time that has to come. I will leave here at the twelfth hour, no later than the thirteenth hour of Apollonius... ...(“and whoever has understanding, let him understand, because there is wisdom within”). I have to leave when the twelve labors of hercules have been done. Yes sir, when I have established myself in the thirteenth aeon!
Students: ...
Samael Aun Weor: I do what I have to do: the Canary Islands! From there I'll have to go visit the Non Trubada; there in the Non Trubada I will meet with the directors of humanity, in the Non Trubada. I will be there for some time, in the Non Trubada or undercover; "and whoever has understanding let him understand, because there is wisdom within"...
It is a joy to spend even a little time there, among the rulers of humanity...
Student: Isn't that island going to become tangible again in the three-dimensional world, later in this age; after all the cataclysms are over?
Samael Aun Weor: At this age, no! Because this is a perverse humanity. It can only be visible in a future age, in the golden age...
Student: Now it's my turn to "digest" everything I've learned...
Samael Aun Weor: Well, of course!
Student: And live it...
Samael Aun Weor: And live it, because there is no other choice... In the golden age everything will be different; then Tlaloc will return, and will take a physical body...
Student: A great god, a master...
Samael Aun Weor: Yes, I have already talked with him and he will return in Aquarius, that is, in the golden age, that is clear, and he will take on a physical body (Tlaloc).
Student: After all these events happened, after Hercolubus arrived?...
Samael Aun Weor: After all, he will take on a physical body. There is no point in coming before, why? He is a specialist in the matter of waters, rains and all that, he has a lot of power and divine wisdom, ineffable.
Student: Master, a memory I had (that they allowed me to have), in which there was a farm, right? A little house, a very humble shack, well, and in it you lived (in the other life) and we lived about two blocks from where you lived, in another house, but they were ranches in the countryside... And where it was Martica's good friend...
Samael Aun Weor: The “grandmother" (Litelantes) was a school teacher in the countryside.
Students: Yes...
Samael Aun Weor: And there she gave classes in the countryside, classes for the peasants; She was a rural school teacher, in the days of Don Porfirio... ... so since I had no money, I ate from what "grandmother" earned there...
Student: Is it true that it was terrible poverty, master?
Samael Aun Weor: ...it was terrible poverty that we had! I ate from what she earned. So, I spent time there in the field; I had no money. She earned some miserable salary and we ate from there, right? So it was terrible...
Student: Terrible times, right?
Samael Aun Weor: The time of Don Porfirio. Now you realize that you lived here in Mexico...
Student: Yes, master...
Samael Aun Weor: Here you are in your old country...
Student: My homeland!...
Samael Aun Weor: Where were you in your past existence? There they sent you, there to the land of Colombia, to pay what you owed...
Student: To pay karma, am I out of that?...
Samael Aun Weor: You had debts there from an ancestor existence...
Student: Ancestor existence!... from right here, Mexican?
Samael Aun Weor: No, from there! Where did they send you, wasn't it there? There you went to pay what you owed, in this current existence. So in Colombia you took a body now to pay karma...
Student: And yes I paid hard for it. Bitter that chalice, master...
Samael Aun Weor: That is the law. So, in the past you were here; In this one, in Colombia, paying a karma from the one before last existence, not from the last, because in the last you were here, but from the one before last when you were there. Now you are here, but you had to pay in that country called Colombia...
Student: What I did...
Samael Aun Weor: A past karma from the one before last existence...
Student: Master, and what terrible things did I do?
Samael Aun Weor: What you now had to suffer, that's what you did. what did you suffer now? That you suffered, that you did.
Student: I did barbarities...
Samael Aun Weor: The same thing you suffered now, you did the same thing. The suffering you went through now, you made others to pass, all the same, but you already paid. Every karma has to be paid...
Student: Master, and another memory I had: we lived here in Mexico, but like in the mountains, in a house, there was, rather, like a jungle type, I don't know if in the Sierra Madre...
Samael Aun Weor: Where, how was it?...
Student: It was in the field, right? But it was in the mountains, right? There was a wooden house, ordinary, well, rustic, and there we were, but there was a forest, big trees around that place; In a time of great crisis...
Samael Aun Weor: That's right, exactly as you saw it that's right, that's obvious.
Student: I think that in that place we were, it was the time when the revolution was, master, because...
Samael Aun Weor: Yes, the village revolution; Well, of course you did, and you were at the time of the Mexican revolution; later pictures will come and you will go to remember when you were in the revolution; you'll be able to remember, little by little...
Student: I've seen myself fighting...
Samael Aun Weor: Scenes! that you will remember...
Students: Somewhere around there they had discovered a golden bat, a golden toad or I don't know what, that they had it on the altar, on the altar...
Samael Aun Weor: Some time ago... They found him in a huaca and they had taken him, a bat, a golden frog, or something like that.
Student: What does the frog symbolize, master?
Samael Aun Weor: Death and resurrection. The frog "dies" in winter... I do believe it is in winter... In times of drought, when there is no water. And when the water returns, it resurrects...
Student 2: This is what I used to tell certain brothers: a doctor, Dr. Ignacio Romero Vargas, who was educated at the Sorbonne in Paris (we met him), and claimed that he had learned more in a year of living among the Yaquis than the ten years he had been at the Sorbonne.
Student: In what?...
Student 2: That he lived with the Yaquis of Sonora. And he says that he gained the trust of all the people and the chief of the tribe. And that on one occasion, he saw that all the people were going in a certain direction; and so he wanted to go where the people went. But when they reached a column topped with the sphinx of a toad, they didn't let him pass, that's where he got. So he went to talk to the boss and he exposed the problem: that he wanted to go where everyone went. Well, he had earned the boss's trust so much that he told him, "Well, do you promise not to laugh at what you see?"
"Well, I solemnly promise." So, they let it go. The people had all gone to the temple and they were all "croaking"...
Samael Aun Weor: To make it rain!...
Student 2: To make it rain... In addition, they say that the "croak" is also to make it rise...
Samael Aun Weor: Helps in the process of sublimation of the waters, of the genetic libido, in singles.
Student: Yes, that practice was given by the master in The Yellow Book.
Samael Aun Weor: Yes, I gave it there... Fine, but with that "croak" they get together in a group and make it rain...
Student 2: Precisely for that, to make it rain. So, what was fantastic was that, that we saw it in your book about you, and we have seen it in other literature, too, to make it rain.
Samael Aun Weor: ...
Student 2: Well, then, he asked the chief of the tribe, why they had that statue erected to a toad; So, they told him that as a symbol of immortality. And to prove it to them, they took a dry, mummified toad and said: “Do you see how it is?”. They put it in a pitcher of water, and covered the pitcher, and the next day the toad was croaking...
Samael Aun Weor: They die and rise again; That is why the toad is sacred. In the Egyptian mysteries, the toad was sacred: a toad with a lotus flower on top of it has an enormous representation: the death and resurrection of man, like the death and resurrection of the universe. The universe dies and at the dawn of the mahamanvantara it rises again, a new creation arises...
Student 2: I have dug a hole about two meters deep (more than once) and found toads at that depth...
Student: Buried, two meters deep?
Student 2: Yes, alive! Alive and fat, very fat...
"In the relics of ancient Egypt, the greater the antiquity of the votive symbols and emblems of the objects exhumed, the oftener are the lotus flowers and the water found in connection with the Solar Gods. The god Khnoom -- the moist power -- water, as Thales taught it, being the principle of all things, sits on a throne enshrined in a lotus (Saitic epoch, Serapeum). The god Bes stands on a lotus, ready to devour his progeny. (Ibid, Abydos.) Thot, the god of mystery and Wisdom, the sacred Scribe of Amenti, wearing the Solar disc as head gear, sits with a bull's head (the sacred bull of Mendes being a form of Thot) and a human body, on a full blown lotus. (IVth Dynasty.) Finally it is the goddess Hiquet, under her shape of a frog, who rests on the lotus, thus showing her connection with water. And it is this frog-symbol, undeniably the most ancient of their Egyptian deities, from whose unpoetical shape the Egyptologists have been vainly trying to unravel her mystery and functions. Its adoption in the Church by the early Christians shows that they knew it better than our modern Orientalists. The "frog or toad goddess" [Heqet] was one of the chief cosmic deities connected with creation, on account of her amphibious nature, and chiefly because of her apparent resurrection, after long ages of solitary life enshrined in old walls, in rocks, etc. She not only participated in the organization of the world, together with Khnoom, but was also connected with the dogma of resurrection. There must have been some very profound and sacred meaning attached to this symbol, since, notwithstanding the risk of being charged with a disgusting form of zoolatry, the early Egyptian Christians adopted it in their Churches. A frog or toad enshrined in a lotus flower, or simply without the latter emblem, was the form chosen for the Church lamps, on which were engraved the words "I am the resurrection" "[[ego eimi anastasis]]." These frog goddesses are also found on all the mummies." -HP Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine